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« on: September 27, 2008, 07:35:44 PM »

I pulled the trigger and picked up a second car.

Found a '67 and haggled it until it was in my possession.

A little rough around the edges, but a fun drive and it's been a DD for the last 6 years. Made it across town last night without any hassles. Well, short of me breaking the key off in the ignition and bottoming out on a speed bump once I made it back to my complex.

















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« Reply #1 on: September 27, 2008, 09:30:19 PM »

Congrats!  What's up with the other bug?

My preference?  Ditch the roof rack and sell it to some idiot on the samba for $250! Grin  That'll get your engine project back on track! Grin

What's the engine stats on the new beast?

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« Reply #2 on: September 27, 2008, 10:02:42 PM »

First thing i'm doing tomorrow is taking the roof rack off.

The car didn't set me back much, so I still have enough to do the engine, but I still don't really have anywhere to do it though with the '73 in the garage. The '73 is quietly sitting in the garage awaiting a some motivation. I'm not getting rid of it, though.

I got a pretty full day ahead of me tomorrow. Apparently, this thing has a 2110. Haven't quite been able to tell yet. Dual 40s (maybe 44s), 009, cheap extractor header and quiet pack muffler. So far, the timing is WAY out, there's a couple of bad push-rod tube seals on the block side, so it leaks on the exhaust and creates a bit of smoke. The valve covers have breathers (breather box in the engine bay) and an external oil cooler with fan. I drove the car last night from the deep south-west to my place without too many problems. LOL

I busted the key off in the ignition, the shift rod coupler grub screw fell out (no safety wire) and there's no seat belts in it. Quite an adventure, but for what I paid, I expected far worse.

If it IS a 2110, i'll dump my new EFI stuff on it after the bug-in and get a better exhaust system to start. Chrome shroud and cylinder tins aren't all wonderful, so i'll need to dig up a 36hp shroud and cylinder tins as well as pulley tin (doesn't have one.)

We'll see what's up tomorrow.

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« Reply #3 on: September 28, 2008, 01:44:56 AM »

Very Cool!  I'd do a leak down test on the engine, and then pull a head to measure bore and stroke while you fix the leaking pushrod tube.  then you'll know if it is truly a 2110 or whatever it actually is.  Where did you find this vehicle for sale?  Not as in geographic region, but as in "Craigslist, Samba, Newspaper, Nifty Nickel, etc.

Very Cool Indeed!

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« Reply #4 on: September 28, 2008, 02:58:16 AM »

I found it via Samba/CraigsHell

The guy was very straight forward and told me everything he "knew" about it. I.E. size of the engine, no rust, etc.

He wasn't lying about the rust. There's a few rock dings on the hood (lotsa vegas freeway miles on it in 6 years) and it's into the paint, primer, then there's clean, bare metal. Inside of the bumpers are crystal clean. No sign of rust or anything. I actually haven't found anything detrimentally wrong with it other than the screwed up pushrod tube seals. I'm just gonna put some adjustables in there until after bug-in. As a matter of fact, i'm going to band-aid everything until after the bug-in. After that, i'll fix everything the right way.

I guess I just wanna make it to the BBQ and the drags. After that, i'll plump down a few bucks and go to town on it.

"I'd do a leak down test on the engine, and then pull a head to measure bore and stroke while you fix the leaking pushrod tube."

I did a compression test and things seemed OK. I know the timing's out a little, but a long day at work left me with 0 desire to to do anything else but vegetate for teh rest of the night. Though I have a feeling with the 1 3/8" exhaust that it's probably a 1776 or 1915. That, or a poorly enough built 2110 that it has stock heads and valve sizes.

We'll find out soon enough.

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« Reply #5 on: October 02, 2008, 02:26:52 PM »

Last night was no fun at all. 6 1/2 hours and the car is leaking more oil than it was. I guess I really screwed that one up.

Scott, wish I knew things weren't going to work out. I have that CB Hex linkage on my car. I woulda just handed it over if I knew the car was gonna get parked for a few months already. Sad
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« Reply #6 on: October 02, 2008, 05:01:09 PM »

Bullcrap!  We'll get you squared out... maybe not in the next 36 hours, but WAYYY before 3 months.  Come on over and enjoy yourself nonetheless.  Lots of great guys coming over that we can all learn from.  Don't miss it!

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« Reply #7 on: October 02, 2008, 09:48:49 PM »

Scott, I no longer have drivable transportation.

It probably dropped about 2 quarts just getting to work and back. It's pooling up under the car as I type. Not sure what else I can do but stop buying this stuff..
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« Reply #8 on: October 03, 2008, 04:08:25 PM »

I'm going to get my car back to my sister's place tomorrow morning on my way to work and walk the rest of the way.

Maybe sunday I can drop the engine, pull the heads, set it on fire, set me on fire, set the back yard on fire, or catch the flu.  Tongue

I think the pushrod tube seals I picked up from Nevada Offroad were cheap or something. I'll see how fast AC.net can get the silly-cone seals out to me and I'll try it again with real pushrod tubes.

What a month this turned out to be.  Lips sealed
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« Reply #9 on: October 03, 2008, 04:29:51 PM »

I'm going to get my car back to my sister's place tomorrow morning on my way to work and walk the rest of the way.

Maybe sunday I can drop the engine, pull the heads, set it on fire, set me on fire, set the back yard on fire, or catch the flu.  Tongue

I think the pushrod tube seals I picked up from Nevada Offroad were cheap or something. I'll see how fast AC.net can get the silly-cone seals out to me and I'll try it again with real pushrod tubes.

What a month this turned out to be.  Lips sealed

Get your butt over here tonight, and I'll GIVE you the good silicone seals!  Grin

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« Reply #10 on: October 03, 2008, 05:17:57 PM »

Haha, I'll try.

It's a long walk, though. Keg will probably be floating by the time I get there.

I'll see if I can steal my g/f's car. Kind of a long shot.
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« Reply #11 on: October 06, 2008, 09:03:30 PM »

Phantom oils leaks . . . I really do hate 'em.

I was a little under the weather today, so I couldn't get to the car. Friday, though, i'm gonna drop the engine and see what's up with this thing. It's absolutely killing me.

I crawled under it this morning to see if I could tell where the leak was at. This is where it gets kinda weird. There's oil all over the pushrod tubes, muffler (single QP) and the passenger-side J-tube. The leak is mostly on the passenger side, though there's a few drops from the driver side. I think i've deduced that it most certainly is NOT the pushrod tubes any more, on account of how far forward on the J-tube (closest to the flange-side by the head) oil seems to be hitting. How on God's green earth did oil get that far up the engine?

My thinking now is along the lines of the rear main seal. But wouldn't that send oil on both sides of the engine? I do have an external oil cooler mounted up under the car above the left side of the tranny. When I was under the car replacing the pushrod tubes, it looked fairly clean. Maybe it was spraying oil out of a pin hole once under a little pressure? Driving from home to Scott's BBQ and back with the oil level at full, left it almost completely empty the following morning. I got the car to the car wash across the street yesterday morning and sprayed off the bottom side of the car, laid down half-way under the car, but the turd didn't drip a single drop of oil. WTF? I've seen it drip right after driving it in the past.

I guess the only thing I can do (which i'll be doing anyways) is drop it to the ground, take it to a small block, and check everything out thoroughly. Both front and rear seals are getting replaced, JayCee pushrod tubes with silicon seals (thanks again, Scott . . . i'll get ya back,) all new cooling tin, possibly a clutch and pressure plate (hopefully not the flywheel), replace the dizzy with my "good" 009, new coil, and a few other miscellaneous things. Time and money permitting, new Setrab pack, oil filter, and proper lines. The case looked like it was full flowed, but i'll have to double check. As it stands, the external cooler is fed from a oil cooler adapter.  Roll Eyes

Kind of excited to get this stuff on. Might actually be able to get to the carbs to adjust them now.



Hint to those of you that attend shows and events like the Bug-In. Wait until you see the folks at the vendor walks start boxing up all their stuff and move in for the kill. I picked up all that tin for $110 and the JayCee pushrod tubes for $80. Vendors would usually prefer not to have to box everything up to take it back to their shop, so hit 'em up on their way out!

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« Reply #12 on: October 07, 2008, 09:32:05 PM »

Now i'm almost positive it's the oil cooler.

I topped the oil off this morning and made the short drive to work. I backed into my parking spot, though, putting the back of the car up-hill. It dropped a little oil off the muffler and J-tube, but not nearly as much as it has been parked the other way.

Ordered a Setrab with fan and gonna take a trip to Granberry tomorrow to get some "hydraulic hoses" made. Note to anyone that swings by there (Vegas or anywhere else that sports the Hose Power USA name): They DO NOT make automotive hoses. If there's even the slightest hint that you want hoses made for a car, they'll tell you to take a hike! When I say "hydraulic hoses," I mean they're actually for the application. Hydraulic hoses have much tighter ratings, in regards to heat range, holding pressure, and durability. So, at lest that'll be out of the way. They're definitely not cheaper, but i've been inches away from failed hydraulic hoses, and we're talkin' several thousand plus PSI. No Push-LOKs, here.

I haveto make a trip to our new facility, thursday, that I'm not too terribly excited about doing, on account of how much oil i'll burn up on the way there and back. Maybe i'll spray the bottom off before going and stop after 1/2 way and see if I can get under the car and pin-point the leak.

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« Reply #13 on: October 08, 2008, 12:30:25 AM »

I've got those seals too if you need them! Grin

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« Reply #14 on: October 08, 2008, 02:27:22 PM »

Thanks for the offer, Scott.

I don't have an in-shroud cooler, though. I'm going to try and take a better look at it this afternoon and see if it IS the external. If that's the case, i'll JB Weld the POS until the new one shows up.
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